Nobody else was in the hangar and the portable staircase was in position, so I was tempted to have a look inside.
I’m really not sure that is correct.
Was it just a matter of time until fragments from a blow out hit something vital?But he had no choice: the plane was about to leave the tarmac altogether and plough into the soft and bumpy grass at its side. If the BEA has chosen not to look at the explanation given in the story, what other omissions are there?
I’m not a Concorde pilot so I don’t know if they could’ve done anything from that point onwards but I’m pretty sure the landing gear was the least of their worries.lovely to see that self obsessed americans still can’t get over the fact that the Europeans succeeded ( concorde ) where they were non starters… keep harping on that incident to prove it.I believe that a truly independent entity to take over these investigations would be a major contribution to flight safety.
but have to agree to disagree on some of it. When the plane left the hangar on 21 July, the spacer was missing.
Good too, for the likes of pilots of my age, some of whom, have been poor in this area.In a comment which might be applied to the whole unfolding tragedy, John Hutchinson said: “Discipline had broken down. Should of, Could of, Would of does nothing to bring these poor souls back or honor their memories. Hydraulics were a weak component but an excellent concept for a 1960’s designed aircraft. (It’s my understanding that changes were implemented after this crash to address some of these issues.
I regard this as the defining error (amongst many other errors) on that terrible day.I was reading through some old posts, just for fun, when I spotted an error that I missed the first time through. This Concorde may well have retired without a single loss of life had the people maintaining and operating had followed procedures. To be honest, the design was a marvel of British (not French) engineering.Once the court case is settled you will hear more on this subject I am sure.It wouldn’t have been the Captain’s hat, but the Flight Engineer’s. Concorde was the last aeroplane in BA service to carry a Flight Engineer, so the retirement of Concorde meant and end to the Flight Engineer in British Airways. By the way, the checks were something that took over a minute by an experienced crew member.Agreeing that uncommanded engine shut downs are a no-no. It’s vital not to get too slow on a Concorde or any aircraft that flies with Conical Vortex Lift- the wing is effectively always stalled and the vortexes controlled to produce the lift. Many accidents are the result of “links in a chain” of events! I am a retired aircraft maintenance engineer who held licenses in the UK, Australia, Fiji, Papua New Guinea and The Bahamas as well an AP Mechanic with TWA. As the plane taxied to the start of the runway, there was nothing to keep the front wheels of the undercarriage in line with the back. Unfortunately, this shows how people may react when human errors (either caused by themselves or others) collectively incite a terrible incident like this. Even before the blowout, Marty was already pushing the envelope.A littany of mistakes happenend that day and from what I have read that continued with BEA approach to vision worthy of Nelson.I can’t imagine how these Concorde people could have let this thing go six tons overweight. But while the fire was visually spectacular — caught on camera, it trails behind the plane in a hellish rooster tail — experts say that aside from damaging the number 2 engine, it was very much survivable, and likely would have burned itself out in a matter of a few minutes. The zoom-climb was aerodynamically impossible, but this is what happens when politics gets into accident investigation.Never was a truer word spoken, Eugene.
The Concorde was an amazing plane and I regret its passing.Independent joysticks don’t tell the non flying pilot.The doomed plane’s centre of gravity went beyond 54 per cent. But in this case, it’s not.
Perhaps a UN of typed needs to be established to look into this and all future accidents so NO one can slant any findings or cover anything up so as NOT to loose face or to be involved in any way politically, economically or have anything to loose in any way?? They made heavy profits in the final months with almost all the flights fully booked. Just thinking about it…Given the crack(s), allowable in-wing fuel leakages, and at least one undiscovered in-flight fire that only by pure luck burned itself out before affecting flight controls, wouldn’t it be possible that the flames on flight 4590 could have ignited leaked fuel adjacent to other tanks and, given ambient pressures in the tanks and ample oxygen, set those tanks alight, too?Thanks for your post!! Why did he use only 20 degrees of rudder (max 30) and why did he rotate early?
As I was the one to let them back in the building I was told by passengers that they were told the reason for the abort was tire failure. In this condition it was committed to take off in a light wind that at the time may have been directly behind the aircraft.
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